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Posted by: HarveyTheCat
« on: October 26, 2018, 04:23:38 PM »

I’m still not pleased that the vast majority of -073 is excluded from the list of proposed bus stops.   

There’s a mile of Greenfield, from Webster to Normandy, completely ignored.   From the far corners it’s about 3/4 of a mile to Beaumont, the only proposed stop.   #Nosebleedsection

Looks like West of Woodward will only be going to Walburgers or Dugans.   (Or McDonalds or Arby’s - I’d rather starve).


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Posted by: BuzzBuzz
« on: October 26, 2018, 01:38:02 PM »

Of the many objections to the current bus proposal, the lack of specificity about bus stops should come first.  The city can still post a request for preferred stops, compiled before the election.  How about it, Don?
Posted by: RO retailer
« on: October 24, 2018, 01:49:08 PM »

Thanks Harv,  I am having my fave drink with my lunch right now!

Gladdy, so when does a non-for-profit take sides?  Shame!
Posted by: Gladys Kravitz
« on: October 24, 2018, 08:17:20 AM »

So now we have Beaumont and city leaders directly meddling in our local election.

Beaumont emailed their employees who live in Royal Oak urging them to vote yes on the transit millage - because it will be good for Beaumont.   How nice of them to encourage their employees to give up more of their hard earned money to the city.   Yes, we have messed with your jobs and benefits over the years but please vote to pay more in taxes to benefit your employer.

501c companies should not be meddling in elections.   https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/the-restriction-of-political-campaign-intervention-by-section-501c3-tax-exempt-organizations


As for the city - a certain business with many high visibility locations was pressured into removing vote no on the millage signs from all their properties around town.  I would venture to guess it went something like this.  Hey xxx.  If you ever want to get another building permit from this city, you might want to consider removing those orange signs from your properties. 

So much for freedom of speech.   So much for free and fair elections. 



Posted by: HarveyTheCat
« on: October 15, 2018, 05:13:22 PM »

The "clean cut" speaker's name is Clark Campbell and we have been friends for several years and thru several elections.  They live in the area behind the Imagine theater.  We (husband and I) had a long discussion regarding the care and feeding of the "busses".  Yes, there seems to be an ongoing problem with leaky roofs in busses.  And it not just one bus!  Clark has tried to get the problem solved and has gotten nothing more that "pass the buck" replies or failure to return calls.  Typical bus services run by the government. 

The RO committee stated that our money will be used for new busses.  Is that a guarantee from SMART in writing.  Or would they be used for a few weeks and traded over to another section of the bus line and RO gets used ones?  With leaks!


Thanks Retailer!   

I cant remember a name to save my life, but your face and drink of choice I’ll never forget.   


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Posted by: RO retailer
« on: October 15, 2018, 02:16:26 PM »

The "clean cut" speaker's name is Clark Campbell and we have been friends for several years and thru several elections.  They live in the area behind the Imagine theater.  We (husband and I) had a long discussion regarding the care and feeding of the "busses".  Yes, there seems to be an ongoing problem with leaky roofs in busses.  And it not just one bus!  Clark has tried to get the problem solved and has gotten nothing more that "pass the buck" replies or failure to return calls.  Typical bus services run by the government. 

The RO committee stated that our money will be used for new busses.  Is that a guarantee from SMART in writing.  Or would they be used for a few weeks and traded over to another section of the bus line and RO gets used ones?  With leaks!
Posted by: HarveyTheCat
« on: October 14, 2018, 08:25:47 PM »

I believe the comparison is this:  just like “clean” water, we NEED the busses.    Of course the EPA doesn’t test for everything, or maybe it does and does not report it to us?    Also just like Flint or Lake Erie, Lake St Clair, and the Detroit River “our water is clean” or at least suitable.   

EWG for Royal Oak (48073)
https://www.ewg.org/tapwater/system.php?pws=MI0005830

#IDontTrustTheGovernment

That said I’d walk before I use a city bus.   Who was that speaker at the past CitCom that said ´I ride the smart bus to Detroit every day.  Every time it rains, it is soaking wet inside the bus because it leaks´ (paraphrased)    The clean cut bald guy.   I think he has two first names.   

And a good portion of 48073 will not have access to the bus because the only stop is Beaumont.   There’s a mile along Greenfield, Webster, and Normandy that’s far more than a quarter mile from the stop.   

I don’t recall a portion on -067 without stops.   


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Posted by: Gladys Kravitz
« on: October 14, 2018, 09:14:51 AM »

As seen on NextDoor.  A certain retired commissioner behind the RO Transit Pro Ballot Question Committee is likening taxes for buses as equivalent to clean water. 

Ok

Can someone explain this logic to me?


Posted by: resident
« on: October 12, 2018, 11:06:31 AM »

Just remember about the mailings,
They use your money, to ask you for more money. 

Yes, informing the voters is needed.
But after the wording and then outcomes of Normandy Oaks, and the Safety " letters from the city" , i have much less trust.
Why the delay on the letter?  Are they doing a sneaky re-write knowing repercussions are zero?

 
Posted by: RO retailer
« on: October 09, 2018, 12:34:54 PM »

There is a certain elected official that needs to be slapped!  ".....ultimate decision decided by the commission." ?????  Get over yourself! 

Yes, look what Berkley and Waterford are doing?  Look what Troy has?  Look what Rochester, Rochester Hills, and Oakland Twp. did when they pooled their resources? 

And what does Royal Oak drool over?  A medical office building and a park.  And apartments, apartments, apartments!!!!!  Bleek!
Posted by: ROBorn
« on: October 09, 2018, 11:21:02 AM »

and check out the other part of that Free Press article! Both Berkley and Waterford are looking to either add or update a COMMUNITY CENTER!!!! Did you hear that? A COMMUNITY CENTER!!!!!!! LISTEN UP ROYAL JOKE CITY COMMISSIONERS!!!!!!!!! THAT is what we NEED and WANT! NOT BUSES!!!! LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE!!!!!!
Posted by: resident
« on: October 09, 2018, 10:32:32 AM »

Ah, i see you have discussions with some of our commissioners.  :) 
Posted by: mikeslife
« on: October 09, 2018, 10:23:09 AM »

It's the old "We know better than you, just give us the money"
Posted by: Gladys Kravitz
« on: October 09, 2018, 07:34:36 AM »

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/oakland-county/2018/10/08/royal-oak-transit-proposal-creates-controversy/1513623002/

"Still, Fournier said nothing is set in stone. According to the ballot language, the millage would "defray the costs of establishing, operating and maintaining a public transit system in the City of Royal Oak." The ultimate decision on how to use the money would be up to the city commission."

Are you kidding me?  WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON?

If this passes, they will in millions $$$ from our taxes in DECEMBER.  With no guarantee of what we will get for that?  Is it possible our city commission took this ridiculous concept from bad to worse?  Just vote to give us money and we will decide what to do with it.  Wow, they really have gone too far.