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[HelloWorld]

I really hope this does not pass!! 

[Gladys Kravitz]

We all know how those "alerts" work.

https://www.dailytribune.com/news/royal-oak-to-alert-residents-on-sidewalk-city-bus-millage/article_6d92e3f4-b5f0-11e8-80a8-e7707e5b1996.html

"City Commissioner Randy LeVasseur was among those unwilling to approve the city mailing without first seeing a letter draft.

“Even if (the information) is not expressed as advocacy … it could be a form of politicking” in the choice of words used, he said."


Thank you Commissioner LeVasseur for standing up for the residents and attempting to put an end to business as usual.  Thank you to the rest of the commissioners for agreeing that this informative letter to be mailed to residents should not be left up solely to our City Manager.

[RO retailer]

HOW MANY WAYS IS THERE TO SAY NO?

1. rogo-the buses to nowhere.  NONONONONONONONO

2. and I will NOT pay for someone else's sidewalk!!!!!


THE GREATER GOOD?  GET A GRIP!  GET REAL!

[RO Fan]

An absolute NO on both. 

So what was outcome of "mailing"...is it going to happen?  If yes, assume city (we) pay for it right?  Nuts.

[Gladys Kravitz]

So what was outcome of "mailing"...is it going to happen?  If yes, assume city (we) pay for it right?  Nuts.

Yes, it will be mailed to every home it the city, at a cost of $10,000. 

[RO retailer]

Which city fund does this "informational" and slanted piece of garbage coming from?  Administration?  Police? Fire? Parks and Rec? DDA? Finance? Water?  Roots?  Oh no, not the General Fund!  Our taxes go into the general fund, right?          

[mikeslife]

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/oakland-county/2018/10/08/royal-oak-transit-proposal-creates-controversy/1513623002/

[Gladys Kravitz]

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/oakland-county/2018/10/08/royal-oak-transit-proposal-creates-controversy/1513623002/

"Still, Fournier said nothing is set in stone. According to the ballot language, the millage would "defray the costs of establishing, operating and maintaining a public transit system in the City of Royal Oak." The ultimate decision on how to use the money would be up to the city commission."

Are you kidding me?  WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON?

If this passes, they will in millions $$$ from our taxes in DECEMBER.  With no guarantee of what we will get for that?  Is it possible our city commission took this ridiculous concept from bad to worse?  Just vote to give us money and we will decide what to do with it.  Wow, they really have gone too far.

[mikeslife]

It's the old "We know better than you, just give us the money"

[resident]

Ah, i see you have discussions with some of our commissioners.   

[ROBorn]

and check out the other part of that Free Press article! Both Berkley and Waterford are looking to either add or update a COMMUNITY CENTER!!!! Did you hear that? A COMMUNITY CENTER!!!!!!! LISTEN UP ROYAL JOKE CITY COMMISSIONERS!!!!!!!!! THAT is what we NEED and WANT! NOT BUSES!!!! LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE!!!!!!

[RO retailer]

There is a certain elected official that needs to be slapped!  ".....ultimate decision decided by the commission." ??  Get over yourself! 

Yes, look what Berkley and Waterford are doing?  Look what Troy has?  Look what Rochester, Rochester Hills, and Oakland Twp. did when they pooled their resources? 

And what does Royal Oak drool over?  A medical office building and a park.  And apartments, apartments, apartments!!!!!  Bleek!

[resident]

Just remember about the mailings,
They use your money, to ask you for more money. 

Yes, informing the voters is needed.
But after the wording and then outcomes of Normandy Oaks, and the Safety " letters from the city" , i have much less trust.
Why the delay on the letter?  Are they doing a sneaky re-write knowing repercussions are zero?

 

[Gladys Kravitz]

As seen on NextDoor.  A certain retired commissioner behind the RO Transit Pro Ballot Question Committee is likening taxes for buses as equivalent to clean water. 

Ok

Can someone explain this logic to me?

[HarveyTheCat]

I believe the comparison is this:  just like “clean” water, we NEED the busses.    Of course the EPA doesn’t test for everything, or maybe it does and does not report it to us?    Also just like Flint or Lake Erie, Lake St Clair, and the Detroit River “our water is clean” or at least suitable.   

EWG for Royal Oak (48073)
https://www.ewg.org/tapwater/system.php?pws=MI0005830

#IDontTrustTheGovernment

That said I’d walk before I use a city bus.   Who was that speaker at the past CitCom that said ´I ride the smart bus to Detroit every day.  Every time it rains, it is soaking wet inside the bus because it leaks´ (paraphrased)    The clean cut bald guy.   I think he has two first names.   

And a good portion of 48073 will not have access to the bus because the only stop is Beaumont.   There’s a mile along Greenfield, Webster, and Normandy that’s far more than a quarter mile from the stop.   

I don’t recall a portion on -067 without stops.   


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